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CHOKE-Chuck Palahniuk
hi, I've read the book twice, and people don't talk about it enough. I'd love to hear anyone's take on it.
or any other Chuck Palahniuk book, for that matter. He's my favourite author, I'm hyperfixated and don't have anyone to talk about his books to RIP haha
Spoilers, kinda.
I think Palahniuk has a super complicated relationship with women, obsessed with the idea of patriarchal masculinity, and how hard it is for men to fit into the boxes of it. I feel as though Fight Club stresses that as a theme a lot too, which I don't see that frequently discussed when anyone talks about Fight Club.
In my opinion, female characters often present an edgy return to the natural, to being human and tender, away from the constraints of traditional roles in society. A madonna character, almost, but with glaring character flaws, which I feel isn't a usual stereotype for motherly female characters??
I think his male characters often hang around women, desperate to participate in femininity, despite trying hard to be the macho man. a dichotomy that seems obvious and super common in our society to me but idk i really like gender politics and the idea of hypermasculinity and being a girly girl so maybe I'm projecting.
idk if this a stretch, but i heard a feminist quote once that in the natural order of societies, when humans were first developing, many of them were matriarchal societies because men feared the inherent mystery of a woman. Like, 'holy crap, this human just popped out another person, how did they do that??' Subsequently, men learnt to use force to try and gain dominance over what they couldn't explain.
Anyway, I love the book, Victor, the main character is a slave to pussy, and he doesn't even realise it cause he thinks he's slinging dick back and forth. Often, the men who sleep around the most are men mommy issues, I think (don draper syndrome?). He resents women, but spends all his effort trying to seduce anything that breathes. His relationship with his mom is super interesting, and the parallel to the story of the Virgin Mary is an awesome exploration of the Madonna whore complex.
The ending was kind of a bust, though, as many of Palahniuk's endings are. Sorry I know this analysis is ass.
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hi, I've read the book twice, and people don't talk about it enough. I'd love to hear anyone's take on it.
or any other Chuck Palahniuk book, for that matter. He's my favourite author, I'm hyperfixated and don't have anyone to talk about his books to RIP haha
Spoilers, kinda.
I think Palahniuk has a super complicated relationship with women, obsessed with the idea of patriarchal masculinity, and how hard it is for men to fit into the boxes of it. I feel as though Fight Club stresses that as a theme a lot too, which I don't see that frequently discussed when anyone talks about Fight Club.
In my opinion, female characters often present an edgy return to the natural, to being human and tender, away from the constraints of traditional roles in society. A madonna character, almost, but with glaring character flaws, which I feel isn't a usual stereotype for motherly female characters??
I think his male characters often hang around women, desperate to participate in femininity, despite trying hard to be the macho man. a dichotomy that seems obvious and super common in our society to me but idk i really like gender politics and the idea of hypermasculinity and being a girly girl so maybe I'm projecting.
idk if this a stretch, but i heard a feminist quote once that in the natural order of societies, when humans were first developing, many of them were matriarchal societies because men feared the inherent mystery of a woman. Like, 'holy crap, this human just popped out another person, how did they do that??' Subsequently, men learnt to use force to try and gain dominance over what they couldn't explain.
Anyway, I love the book, Victor, the main character is a slave to pussy, and he doesn't even realise it cause he thinks he's slinging dick back and forth. Often, the men who sleep around the most are men mommy issues, I think (don draper syndrome?). He resents women, but spends all his effort trying to seduce anything that breathes. His relationship with his mom is super interesting, and the parallel to the story of the Virgin Mary is an awesome exploration of the Madonna whore complex.
The ending was kind of a bust, though, as many of Palahniuk's endings are. Sorry I know this analysis is ass.
#entertainment
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