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Why don't women ask men out? That'd be really nice.

There is such a massive disconnect between how men and women think about dating. If I hear "be yourself!" one more fkn time I'm gonna lose it.

We're being ourselves, I promise Disney Channel beat that message into us every damn day. *Most* of us are being polite and respectful (i'll admit, this is more of a hope- I've been seeing a lot more stupid misogynistic rage bait comments from men recently, but I still believe most of us act right.)

I just saw a comment on here that basically said "well who cares if you get rejected 9/10 times, you're looking for something longterm, it only takes once!" And as sweet as it sounds, it's pretty clearly written from someone who's only ever been asked out, never actually gone through constant rejection.

It sucks. Dating apps suck, you make an account, you think you look good, you put a lot of thought into your prompts and all that crap, and then you only get a match once every 2 months and are quickly ghosted after sending the first message- usually just hi or a polite compliment.

Dating in real life sucks even more. Let's say you get rejected 9 out of 10 times, at least 1 of those rejections isn't just a nice "oh no thank you." I've met some really crappy women, you ever start a convo with someone at a club and then watch them look at their friends and laugh? You ever start a convo with someone at a bar and have them not even respond, just walk away and make you feel disgusting for trying to meet people?

I'm sure I sound a bit salty, and yeah I probably am. But I also know I'm not attractive, I'm not delusional, if we made a dumb scale, i'm like a 4 most of the time, maybe a 6 if I really damn try. I ain't going after supermodels, but it really feels like every girl in their 20s right now wants a 10 and will not settle for less.

Can women please start asking us out if theyre interested? I get that you like feeling special and wanted, so do we! I get that it's scary, it scares us too! And seriously, i still have not met a guy who has an issue with a woman asking them out, actually every guy I've talked would love it, if it ever actually happened

Edit- I really appreciate *most* of the answers here, I think I’m understanding something that just wasn’t obvious to me- if you ask a man out, they might just forget they need to *keep* you interested. I understand that, as a straight guy I can’t really see that perspective, especially because i don’t think I’d act like that- but it makes perfect sense.

Also- I have no idea how to write this without sounding like a middle schooler pretending to know what sex is, but I have been in a relationship. No she doesn’t “go to a different school.” I think some people read this and immediately assumed I’m some lonely little incel who’s mad at the world. I’m just saying- it’d be really nice if i didn’t have to initiate every relationship, if a girl took that pressure off me i would melt.
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