Help me out here. To start off I would like to say I really love math. To me, a lot of mathematical concepts (but not all) originated from someone setting up a list of arbitrary rules, that stuck around and got studied because those rules made patterns that looked good in some way, and then somewhere along the line someone found a use for those rules or the equations that came from them that helped us in the real physical world (leaving some room here to say part 2 and 3 aren't always in that order). Some concepts came about more from real world observation (thinking physics), and some concepts came about from things that make sense in our head and therefore help to make sense of things or make things feel more fair (thinking something basic and old like us using base 10 for our numbering system). However there are many concepts that don't originate this way. I'm getting a lot of push back, particularly for using the word arbitrary. I'm not sure if that word perfectly fits what I'm thinking, but I'm struggling to find a more accurate description. But the way people are pushing back make me feel like they don't have an understanding of what I mean, or otherwise that their arguments don't make sense to me. #science source